Thursday, February 17, 2011

live vs. online play

ok so heres the live vs. online comparison that i was planning on doing so enjoy

so basically the main big difference between the two is online is way more solid than live. for this post ill be referring to 10nl online and 1/2 nl live. for the basic play between the two there are a lot more weaker players in live than online. online you may have 1 or 2 limpers here or there as for live if theres not a pre flop raise from early position then theres usually anywhere from 3-7 limpers depending on the table. isolating such limpers is a little bit more difficult in live. if you do it online usually you can isolate 1 limper and have one fold or at worse be against 2 limpers before you isolate, for live if your in late position and you see 5 limpers and think theres a bit of dead money in the pot so you might be able to take it down with A9 suited if you raise your wrong. if one of the limpers calls there all calling. they have it in there head that they have pot odds to do so i mean if you have 56 suited and a couple limpers call then by all means i dont think thats bad but like J2 suited and 47 off are common to see people limp with and then call a late position raise. they basically have it in there head that maybe this one time ill flop gin and win big. so i found its best not to try and take down a pot pre flop with multi limpers unless actually having a hand of value that will play decent after the flop. as for the flop play goes. online it seems like they have a general understanding of board texture and that a flop that comes A T 6 probally hit his range so a pair of 7s might not be ok to call a bet here. well for live they will call that flop bet. as for the turn play goes online seems pretty straight forward and solid usually people will fold second best hands if theres another bet and there doesnt seem to be a whole lot of absolute horrid play i mean you do see people making a lot of mistakes online at the micros but usually not somthing that is insane. live is a bit different and you can see many different things on any given day i do see people lay down 2 pairs here and there but basically when it comes down to it they are just as bad on the turn as the flop. the river doesnt really change to much compared to the turn it seems like i mean people are folding busted hands and really weak hands if shown aggression so i dont really have much to say there. as for bluffing goes online they will pull more elaborate bluffs even at 10nl not very many will but there are some including me that will pull the right bluff against the right player (mostly nitty regs) as for live you dont really see a BIG bluff you might see one for 25 bb or maybe a little more but you will rarely ever see any all in bluffs or anything of that kind. as for which game is more beatable i would deffinitley say live is more beatable. the only bad thing about live is how long it takes. i really believe that playing pretty basic abc poker will beat live 1/2nl but it takes a long time to see decent results but if somone was wanting to build a roll for online i would suggest live if they are beating 5nl online. also live 1/2 is very very similar to 5nl online. so if you can beat 5nl online there i think your golden. but you still have to have the patience to play live. as far as big betting goes it seems like live is pretty straight forward. even today i raised a couple limpers when i was in the cutoff with AK suited and the button 3 bet me. i thaught a little bit and threw it away and he showed AA usually in live play a 3bet basically means AA or KK i have seen other people 3 bet AK and qq but very few. for online that same play against alot of players i would 4bet and almost be happy to get it in there. as for post flop plays usually big bets mean big hand in live you do see some spazs out there but its usually pretty straight forward. online i see people mixing it up here and there but its player dependent. stack sizes is another thing i nothiced online i all the regs buy in for 100bb unless playing a deep table, as for live most of the games are capped at 300 and youll see people buyin from 100-300 but the regs like to buy in for the max i guess that personal preference. it does go in hand with how the table playes though. live plays a lot bigger it seems. what i mean is that a standard raise online is 3bb pre flop. if you do that same 3bb pfr youll have about 6 callers and theyll all think your stupid for making it 3bb. a 5bb raise is a pretty standard open with a decent hand and i see 7-8bb raises with hands like AK or QQ+, i prefer 4bb open raise and usually get atleast 2 callers almost always. also 3 bets are generally bigger. so i suppose the bigger starting stack gives you more leeway to move chips around but your spending more in doing so.also theres the little personal differences like having to deal with stupid people talking all day or dealer problems and mistakes or miscalculations and a whole bunch of little problems like that. also going through winning and losing swings takes a long time. ive been on a 4 week downsing in live poker where that same downswing would have taken like 3-4 days online. to sum all this up though live is drastically worse than online. and very beatable you have to be extremely patient and play a solid straight forward game but you will be able to beat it online is getting more solid every year and its getting harder for people to even break even but is a good place to learn for cheap. i really do prefer online compared to live i feel i have a bigger edge online and feel more at home even though i play for less money i have more fun and enjoy online more. the only upside to live i see is the amount of money you can win compared to online.

i know i pretty much just jibber jabbered this whole post and it wasnt very organized but im just a mumbling wierdo anyway so please dont judge haha. so yeah ill post this sunday most likely and ive got some interesting stuff for that post so stay tuned fellow weirdos

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